Why Creationism Is So Flawed
Whenever I hear someone argue in favor of Creationism (or Intelligent Design) they always use at least 1 of the following 2 arguments:
- God (the designer) made us. The Bible says so… therefore Creationism is true.
- They attack the theory of evolution… therefore Creationism is true.
Why don’t they ever try to prove their point of view? Just declaring that your point of view is correct because you believe it to be doesn’t prove anything! Apparently they’ve never heard of circular logic:
- God created us because the Bible says so.
- The Bible is true because God (indirectly and/or directly) wrote the Bible.
Attacking someone else’s viewpoint doesn’t make yours credible! All you did was tear their case down, you never built yours up! Did you just forget to make your case? Or did you not have one to start with?
Finally, I don’t get why Creationists always say that Evolution is just a theory. Yeah… kinda like gravity is just a theory. I always wonder if they mean to say hypothesis. A theory starts its life out as a hypothesis and then through testing, observation, and revision is either thrown out or becomes a credible theory. And Evolution, at this point in the game, is a credible theory. Who knows, maybe one day it will be disproven… and maybe one day we’ll wake up floating in the air, free from gravity’s pull. It could happen!
Artolas (Nov 04, 2007)
Why Creationism Is So… Stupid!
If God created the world … who created God?
SocalJake (Nov 24, 2007)
Such a scam… I have better things to do than sit around worshipping an imaginary being… Think for yourself you puppets, you control what you do, plain and simple.
And as for the gravity competition? No, scientists never claimed to invent it, they just explain it. Does your book explain it?
EveVillain (Jan 26, 2008)
Also, their whole belief system is based on faith allowing them to escape the burden of proof. I agree, completely flawed. Also, because it is based on faith, it is part of a religion. 1st Amendment, blah blah blah. Can’t they just send their kids to Sunday school to be brainwashed?
Beren (Jun 23, 2008)
To an extent, I agree with you. Many of the arguments that the
creationists put forth are silly and do not really prove much.
However, evolutionists have this same problem. Evolution has
credibility as a theory? Ok. Yet we can clearly say the same about
Intelligent Design. Theory status doesn’t “prove” anything. You
bring up the circular reasoning. With all respect, I think you need
to understand here how epistemology works. Everyone, evolutionists
and Christians alike, have a set of presuppositions that factor
into what they believe and why they believe it. Many Christians
place special revelation (the Bible) as their highest authority for
determining what truth is. Many athiests and agnostics place things
such as reasoning (logic) or science as their foundation in
epistemology. We can argue, then, that everyone has circular
reasoning. Christians believe the Bible is infallible and true
because it was inspired by God… and it is the Bible that reveals
God to us. Seems circular, doesn’t it? Sure. After all, “If God
created the world, who created God?” Compare with this: Athiests
believe that science is the trustworthy means of finding knowledge
because we have always found science to be trustworthy. That is, we
have always observed that science is trustworthy. But saying such a
thing means that we have to have science proving science’s own
validity – once again circular reasoning. The same applies to
rationality. To say that logic is the means of finding truth
requires us to use logic and reasoning to support it. These
examples are in some ways an oversimplification – the “circle” of
reasoning can get larger or smaller depending on how many
components are in it, but regardless, it is still circular.
Beren (Jun 23, 2008)
Now you might say, “ok, let’s say you are right. Let’s say our
reasoning is circular too, and we have science as the foundation in
our epistemology. So what? Far better to have science than an
imaginary being.” But can science explain morality? Can we
understand morality through observation? Isn’t that man-defined
morality? If so, how can we say murder is wrong, or stealing, or
slavery? Why should we want what is good for society rather than
satisfying ourselves and being the “fittest?” Science isn’t a good
foundation for morality. What about logic? Is that a good
foundation for morality? Nope. Anyone can say that by their
reasoning, murder is perfectly fine. There is no higher standard to
be held to.
Beren (Jun 23, 2008)
Or consider what it means to be human. What are we? Is there a
reason that humans are here, or are we here for no reason? What
should we do with our lives? These questions have vexed
philosophers throughout the ages. Evolution would tell us we are
highly evolved creatures. We are meaningless in the long run, only
out for our own pleasure. And if that is the case, why not just
have a heyday and not care about it? Evolution as a theory devalues
the human being. An example of evolutionary theory taken too far
can be found in the Holocaust. Reasoning and logic on their own get
us nowhere either. We cannot use logic or science as the
foundations for how we know truth because they themselves are just
instruments. How can we know the instruments are trustworthy? There
must be a higher truth, a truth coming from a perfect being, the
Creator of the universe. Do Christians have a foundation for
morality? Yes, in Scripture. Do we understand why we are here and
what our purpose is? That is given in Scripture too. We are made in
the image of God. We are His special creation.
Beren (Jun 23, 2008)
Scripture reveals something else as well. Though man has sinned and
rebelled against the moral law set forth by God, and though man
deserves punishment for this cosmic treason, God in His
lovingkindness sent His own Son to live a sinless life and die in
our stead, to deliver us from the wrath to come if we would only
believe in Him and follow Him.
Beren (Jun 23, 2008)
Because of the Bible, I know how to live a moral life. I know why I
am here, and that I actually have meaning. I know that science is
trustworthy, because God created a world that could be observed and
understood. I know that logic is trustworthy, because all truth is
God’s truth and God never changes or contradicts Himself. I believe
in the promises of God, and I live a life that is truly free and
truly joyful. My guilt has been placed on the shoulders of Christ,
and I am free of it forever. Lastly, to Artolas - if the big
bang created the universe, what created the big bang? Unless mass
is eternal, there has to be nothingness as some point. Instead of
having mass as my source of truth and my god, I have God, who is
eternal and thus required no creator. God does not need a beginning
because He IS the beginning. He is not constrained by time because
He created time.
Beren (Jun 23, 2008)
My apologies for the multiple comments – I though it would be more
readable than one long comment block of text.
moggy (Aug 16, 2008)
And on a related note:
“I can’t explain it”… therefore God!